- Check ring gap before fitting.
- Check the cylinder slides down the cylinder studs and drops into casing free.
- Seal base gaskets or faces with silicone sealer.
- Seal cylinder head gasket or faces with a loctite.
- Torque head nuts down to 18-20 lbs ft and re-torque at 500 - 800 miles.
- Always check squish clearances, it should be 1 - 1.5mm.
- These cylinders have a new shape inlet 200 type port, inlet manifolds ideally need matching to suit.
- Early cylinders can be tight on the exhaust port fins, so some modification is required if using the MBgm Clubman
Gearing, depends on your weight, if you drive 2 up with luggage, the type of riding you want to do, exhausts used and the top speed you want from the kit.
Examples are from 5.2:1 - 4.3:1
- Li150 Italian 15x46, 16x46, 17x46, 17x47, 18x47
- Gp125 Italian/Indian 18x47, 19x47,19x46, 20x46, 20x47
- Sx200 15x46, 16x46
- Tv200 15x46
All this gearing information is in our
Tech-Site
I honestly haven't had as much fun riding my lambretta or put on as many 'worry free' miles as i have this summer since the early 90s now that we've got the engine humming just right. thanks again for all your input and answering tedious emails and the tuning, etc. the thing really does behave now as i have always wished it would.
Lunch time ride out against Oli on Polini rally and Vespa Big Box, Ulf on 1st MBgm barrel (reed) and Sito. Me on the SX 230 RT, think we dominated. this really is the setup worth to be called ultimate and best I ever had!
Many thanks for the swift delivery of items. Fitted this kit along with the BGM exhaust over the weekend. Only done 30 miles or so at the moment, but I can only say that I am impressed!! What a difference to my Mugello, no bogging when pulling away from traffic lights, accelerates from 10mph to 60mph in 5th gear! Excellent, I hope the performance keeps up.
On the Lambretta since 93 or 94. And it is the best engine I had so far. Every thing I ever wanted.
Nearly 3 years ago I purchased the RT 205 Kit ( with RT crank and PHBL 25mm carb kit ) for my SX200 ( which runs through the air box ( with holes drilled) and a Clubman exhaust ). The scooter continues to run beautifully, really smooth with a broad power band, efficient on fuel and ideal for touring--it has been worth every penny.
Fitted this kit using a 58/110 mm crank got the squish at 1.27 mm 47 tooth clutch wheel and a 16 drive. The set up is fantastic I love the sound it produces through the 42 mm clubman exhaust. I would not hesitate to use this kit again. Thanks I love it.
Mark
I just recently purchased this kit from your shop via phone. Would just like to say , it us the best quality kit I have ever bought. Money well spent. Everything machined and fitted together beautifully. A real work if art. Followed your online fitting instructions to the t . Using Italian sx 200 casings , all the tolerences were bang on , squish etc virtually as you said it would measure . There are so many bull shitters out there it's a pleasure to deal with grownups who know there stuff . You say on your website you can be anal but please don't stop . I like to think it's cause you do things properly and don't hold back information unlike some other dealers . So it's obvious I am very happy with purchase , runs beautifully just running in now . My sx has had a restoration and now it has the engine to match . Many thanks . Tom Derby ( Medway Aces SC )
Just to let you know Bob Chalmers phone up to say his R/T kit is the best cylinder kit he's ever used. He did 200 miles running it in around Fife, then went from Lands End to John O Groats (874miles) in under 24hrs, never missed a beat- best speed was 75mph and cruised at 60-65 no problems.
Mark,
Just fitted the RT225 onto my SX. Went like a dream. 0.5 mm Base Gasket and Transfer Ports lined up beautifully with the top of the Piston. No Cylinder Head Gasket required with a final squish clearance of between 1.2 and 1.27 mm.
Brilliant product!
Pete
Running this RT225 with an open mouthed 28mm Dellorto and a JL pipe and I have to say its pretty quick. On an Indian GP200 gear box it really comes alive in 3rd and 4th with a torquey, confident and effortless power delivery. This kit in my opinion is a significant step up in performance from a standard 200. Fitting the kit was easy although I did have to file the piston ring gaps to achieve the recommended gap. I also had to shave a little of the exhaust fins to get my exhaust stub to fit (two minutes with a Dremil). A quality kit with comprehensive instructions on MB's tech site. A quick and powerful touring 225 and at £360 represent cracking value for money. Fuel consumption isn't to deadly and the fasted I've achieved is 76mph in favourable weather conditions. Very pleased with my purchase.
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J D on 17 Mar 2023 asked "I'm looking to buy this kit,I have not chosen the electronic ignition yet, is there one you would recommend to work with this kit? Cheers"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: It would be the bgm or Vape ignition. Both got pros and cons but both very good and spares everywhere
Dave S on 28 Jan 2023 asked "Hi, I have a 64 118 crankshaft. Can you supply a upgraded piston with the kit.
Thanks Dave
"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: It would depend on if the small end bearing is 16mm or 18mm. But yes either but the RT needs setting up correctly on a 64mm stroke
Mr P on 16 Oct 2022 asked "Piston ring life in mileage (roughly of course) after running in do you recommend changing the rings.
RT225"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: If you check and renew them at around 1500 they will then last for many more thousands of miles
Gary b on 16 Jan 2022 asked "Hi Mark do you sell just the 225 reed valve barrel on it's own?
Cheers Gary "
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Sorry they do not sell us cylinders on their own
Andrew c on 25 Feb 2021 asked "Hi purchase mrb0835k shorty and mbgm0620d a while back to use on my other rt kit ,but couldn't be bother to send my cylinder back to you for modification i.if I purchased a new kit could you modify the kit to suit "
MB Scooters Ltd replied: I can do a complete kit new. Or if you send the parts I can do it
Steve on 05 Nov 2020 asked "Hi guys just finished running in my bgm 225 race tour (standard) does everything it says on tin .but where's always a but it has a violent kickback when starting from cold is this something I should be worrying about ? Thanks"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Could be a number of things, lightened flywheel, incorrect timing which needs checking. Or give it more of a heavy kick
Miike b on 24 Oct 2020 asked "i'm looking to fit this kit into a standard sil 200 engine.you provide base gaskets but what head gaskets should i look to be ordering in order to set the squish?..thanks mike"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Cylinder kits come with varying base packers, there should be no need for a head gasket
AARON on 05 Jul 2020 asked "Hi Mark, would a 42mm clubman work,or would you go 48mm cheers Aaron"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: The RT kit will run on any Clubman, the MBgm version gives the best alround spread of power
Ian B on 07 Dec 2019 asked "Hi Mark.
What type of exhaust fitting does this kit have? TS1 or Standard?"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Standard
Paul M on 13 Nov 2019 asked "I'm thinking of getting this kit.Will it fit on an Indian 200 case,if so will it need any base packers/gaskets. Yours,Paul Metcalfe"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: It comes with base thin packers/gaskets to suit the standard 107mm con rod, if you use a 110mm con rod we do packers to suit
Ian on 12 Aug 2019 asked "Hi
Does the carb sit on the standard or non standard side
Regards "
MB Scooters Ltd replied: They sit on the standard left hand side
Cédric on 27 Oct 2018 asked "Hello Mark ,
I just bought this kit MRB225 to mount on my SIL GP200, with 30 dellorto, clubman BGM 4, 19x46, BGM clutch ...
and I do not know which crankshaft to buy, in your advice you say "The rod of 107 mm standard length limits the configuration of the cylinders"
which of these crankshaft do you advise me?
Lambretta Crankshaft, 58x110mm, Gp, full circle, gold bgm
Lambretta Crankshaft, 60x110mm, Gp, full circle, bgm,
which is the simplest to configure?
thank you so much
cordially
Cédric"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: The easiest to fit would be the 58mm x 110mm
Thai B on 11 Aug 2018 asked "Plesea help me,i want setup engines kit racing tour ( RT225,47/18,gear box 200gp India ,carb 30mm).How do think? Setup help me...thank so much "
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Yes this will be perfect
Steve F on 20 Jul 2018 asked "Hi Mark, does the fitting of a reed valve assembly affect the fuel consumption greatly?
Thanks,
Steve"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Always depends on how good you have the jetting in the first place. With the RT kits and MB shorty reed assembly fuel economy usually goes up and it can be up to 20mpg!
Tony on 12 Apr 2018 asked "I have bought a rt225 kit. Can I run it on a sh/22 mm dellorto and if so what jetting
Thanks
Tony"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Yes it should run no problem, but you will have to try it and up jet it, which depends on so many variables. Sorry we've not tried a 20mm
Brett on 30 Jan 2018 asked "Hi...What HP & Torque figures should I expect to see using RT225, MB V4 Clubman, 30mmPHBH, 58/107 Crank and SX/TV Gearbox...Thank you "
MB Scooters Ltd replied: It depends on final set up. Should be around 16-18 bhp and 14-15 torque at the rear wheel. Some more - some less depends on the dyno. Not just about figures on that one its how it rides
John F on 04 Aug 2017 asked "Hi Im thinking of getting one of these kits and fitting an LTH reed.Can you supply it with a piston with windows ?"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: We can do a swap for a reed version MB piston, but don't recommend that reed block we recommend our own shorty Reed assembly which gives more power
Dave on 05 Apr 2017 asked "Hi, am planning on buying this kit, if I do would you be able to advise on basic jetting. I have the BGM exhaust and a 28 Dellorto PHBH currently jetted for a Monza(both bought from yourselves)."
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Yes we can but all this information is on our Tech-Site. As is setting up and running in instructions
John on 04 Oct 2016 asked "Hi, you state barrel is a plated cylinder bore. Is this Nicasil ?
Thanks"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Nicasil
Paul L on 17 Sep 2016 asked "Hi I have recently purchased RT 225 kit ,along with 30 mil dellorto carb and mk 3 bgm exhaust .I'm having trouble starting and when I do the scooter is running badly in 3rd and 4th gear , I have had it on the dyno .The main jet was lowered to a 120 yet still running as if is rich in 3rd and 4th ,the plug is a nice brown colour . im worried to drop main any smaller ,I would appreciate if you have any ideas .thanks Paul "
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Some kits run smaller main jets if fitted with a air filter, but be careful. It could be a rich atomiser causing the problem
Mark H on 21 Jan 2016 asked "Hi just received my RT225 kit. Do you do a 4 point fitting exhaust stub for the kit that my franspeed super tourer will fit into ?
Regards
Mark
"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: We only do these http://www.lambrettaspares.com/spares/exhaust-systems/oval-exhaust-flange,-steel-4-hole-type,-8mm-thick,-mb/mrb0845.html
Alan D on 27 Dec 2014 asked "I currently have a SX200 casing which has had the transfer ports modified by yourselves to match a TS1 etc (match and flow / LAB019)
Could you tell me if this kit would fit the modified casing ?
Thanks"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Yes no problem but the transfers will need matching, which is an easy DIY job or we can do it
Dom on 25 Jul 2013 asked "I'm planning on buying one of these kits, along with one of your BGM clubman exhausts, dellorto carb kit and having the inlet and exhaust manifolds matched. What set up would you suggest would be the best, standard size crank or 60mm and which carb kit 28mm Dellorto or the 30mm? Cheers, Dom"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: It's totally up to you on crank size, both work well and the kit works perfect with both, same with the carb both work well. I guess 60mm and 30mm for more top end speed
Steve on 17 Oct 2012 asked "Hi,is this kit piston port or reed valve and when are you expecting some more in stock?
Cheers.....Steve"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: These are piston port. Due Dec/Jan
Mick d on 14 Oct 2012 asked "hello, can you run this kit with a 60mm stroke crank?
if so do you recommend any modifications?
thanks"
MB Scooters Ltd replied: Yes 60, 62 and 64mm cranks. 60mm is easy, straight fit just set up using packers to set port timings or head gaskets for squish clearance.
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